1 00:00:04,519 --> 00:00:02,959 the Marshall Space Flight Center is 2 00:00:06,560 --> 00:00:04,529 known as a repulsion Center but it also 3 00:00:08,120 --> 00:00:06,570 has made many contributions in science 4 00:00:11,029 --> 00:00:08,130 we're here to talk with a man who spent 5 00:00:12,980 --> 00:00:11,039 30 years here in science dr. Don Fraser 6 00:00:15,350 --> 00:00:12,990 thanks very much for taking the time to 7 00:00:17,540 --> 00:00:15,360 talk to us today thank you let's start 8 00:00:20,029 --> 00:00:17,550 back when you were small boy growing up 9 00:00:21,880 --> 00:00:20,039 in Detroit how did you discover that you 10 00:00:25,429 --> 00:00:21,890 wanted it to become involved in science 11 00:00:28,130 --> 00:00:25,439 if I saw a picture of someone from NASA 12 00:00:30,529 --> 00:00:28,140 I had utmost respect for that person 13 00:00:34,040 --> 00:00:30,539 because that was one of the people that 14 00:00:36,560 --> 00:00:34,050 John Glenn and others like him depended 15 00:00:39,920 --> 00:00:36,570 on and I said this is this has got to be 16 00:00:43,010 --> 00:00:39,930 a first-rate organization and so I 17 00:00:44,540 --> 00:00:43,020 wanted to be a part of it one of the 18 00:00:47,410 --> 00:00:44,550 things that I think we've contributed 19 00:00:50,360 --> 00:00:47,420 here from NASA is the ability to grow 20 00:00:52,340 --> 00:00:50,370 really good crystals some of these 21 00:00:56,150 --> 00:00:52,350 crystals are important and such things 22 00:00:58,009 --> 00:00:56,160 as infrared detectors for example you 23 00:01:00,259 --> 00:00:58,019 know you want a certain degree of 24 00:01:03,709 --> 00:01:00,269 perfection I mentioned earlier the 25 00:01:06,859 --> 00:01:03,719 possibility of nonlinear optics as a 26 00:01:10,070 --> 00:01:06,869 futuristic way of doing computing for 27 00:01:12,859 --> 00:01:10,080 example we have demonstrated that in the 28 00:01:14,600 --> 00:01:12,869 past protein crystal growth that was a 29 00:01:17,260 --> 00:01:14,610 biggie back in the microgravity days 30 00:01:21,230 --> 00:01:17,270 where you can grow a perfect crystal 31 00:01:23,749 --> 00:01:21,240 protein you can do x-ray diffraction on 32 00:01:26,600 --> 00:01:23,759 that perfect crystal and sometimes you 33 00:01:30,170 --> 00:01:26,610 can do some pharmaceutical type how does 34 00:01:31,819 --> 00:01:30,180 aspirin work for example and so that was 35 00:01:34,340 --> 00:01:31,829 a biggie protein crystal growth that was 36 00:01:35,990 --> 00:01:34,350 a big deal back during the microgravity 37 00:01:37,730 --> 00:01:36,000 days that that there was a lot of 38 00:01:41,060 --> 00:01:37,740 accomplishment of their divergent Luke 39 00:01:43,219 --> 00:01:41,070 astounded UAB did quite a bit of work in 40 00:01:45,950 --> 00:01:43,229 that area and others not just in the 41 00:01:49,609 --> 00:01:45,960 production of certain types of aerogels 42 00:01:52,959 --> 00:01:49,619 for example in microgravity or zeolites 43 00:01:55,039 --> 00:01:52,969 people have used it for purification of 44 00:01:57,410 --> 00:01:55,049 atmosphere I'm talking about 45 00:01:58,370 --> 00:01:57,420 microgravity related things but there 46 00:02:01,100 --> 00:01:58,380 are other things that are non 47 00:02:03,289 --> 00:02:01,110 microgravity related that NASA of course 48 00:02:06,139 --> 00:02:03,299 from the propulsion standpoint have been 49 00:02:08,480 --> 00:02:06,149 very instrumental in developing NASA is 50 00:02:10,670 --> 00:02:08,490 not just this side of the you know 51 00:02:13,300 --> 00:02:10,680 there's also the telescope's as the 52 00:02:15,640 --> 00:02:13,310 optics you know this Chandra you know 53 00:02:17,530 --> 00:02:15,650 there's our ability to look out at the 54 00:02:20,140 --> 00:02:17,540 edge of the universe near the edge of 55 00:02:22,839 --> 00:02:20,150 the universe back in time there near the 56 00:02:24,820 --> 00:02:22,849 creation you know we've done so many 57 00:02:27,190 --> 00:02:24,830 things that's difficult to compare 58 00:02:29,199 --> 00:02:27,200 what's more important than others we're 59 00:02:31,540 --> 00:02:29,209 getting more into earth scientists where 60 00:02:33,610 --> 00:02:31,550 we're looking at moving detectors on 61 00:02:37,660 --> 00:02:33,620 platform moving platforms and 62 00:02:39,729 --> 00:02:37,670 determining melting of ice how fast that 63 00:02:42,970 --> 00:02:39,739 rate is and this has a lot to do with 64 00:02:44,680 --> 00:02:42,980 our current focus on climate control and 65 00:02:47,009 --> 00:02:44,690 climate conditions and that sort of 66 00:02:49,870 --> 00:02:47,019 thing so all of these things are 67 00:02:52,780 --> 00:02:49,880 probably not comparable to each other 68 00:02:55,240 --> 00:02:52,790 but all are extremely important if not 69 00:02:57,400 --> 00:02:55,250 to our existence certainly to our 70 00:02:59,680 --> 00:02:57,410 knowledge of the universe that we live 71 00:03:01,270 --> 00:02:59,690 in computing optical computing and 72 00:03:04,240 --> 00:03:01,280 quantum computing and these sort of 73 00:03:06,809 --> 00:03:04,250 things that that nASA has played a role 74 00:03:09,190 --> 00:03:06,819 is playing a role in helping to develop 75 00:03:11,890 --> 00:03:09,200 flexible electronics you know the fact 76 00:03:16,449 --> 00:03:11,900 that not we'll be able to print circuits 77 00:03:18,160 --> 00:03:16,459 and photovoltaics on paper and very 78 00:03:21,270 --> 00:03:18,170 light low-mass your NASA's very 79 00:03:24,819 --> 00:03:21,280 interesting low-mass and I efficiency 80 00:03:27,220 --> 00:03:24,829 devices we can print a way of collecting 81 00:03:30,580 --> 00:03:27,230 energy from the Sun and storing it and 82 00:03:32,229 --> 00:03:30,590 printing the storage medium and printing 83 00:03:34,330 --> 00:03:32,239 light-emitting diodes on a piece of 84 00:03:35,710 --> 00:03:34,340 paper which is what we're working on now 85 00:03:38,319 --> 00:03:35,720 is some of the stuff I'm working on 86 00:03:42,569 --> 00:03:38,329 right now that's going to have a huge 87 00:03:45,160 --> 00:03:42,579 impact on my own personal view and the 88 00:03:46,809 --> 00:03:45,170 nation dr. Fraiser thanks very much for 89 00:03:49,259 --> 00:03:46,819 your time today well I thank you for 90 00:03:52,170 --> 00:03:49,269 taking the time with me this has been 91 00:03:55,660 --> 00:03:52,180 nice to talk about and it's not just 92 00:03:56,949 --> 00:03:55,670 work anymore it's fun Bonnie it was so 93 00:03:58,660 --> 00:03:56,959 gracious of you to have us in your home 94 00:04:01,240 --> 00:03:58,670 today can you tell us what it was like 95 00:04:02,830 --> 00:04:01,250 first of all working at Redstone and 96 00:04:06,069 --> 00:04:02,840 then tell me what the first meeting was 97 00:04:08,740 --> 00:04:06,079 like well he was so friendly so cordial 98 00:04:14,170 --> 00:04:08,750 he was just uh I felt like I had known 99 00:04:18,690 --> 00:04:14,180 him he was a he was very nice man you 100 00:04:22,330 --> 00:04:18,700 really became his right-hand lady right 101 00:04:26,920 --> 00:04:22,340 well a lot of people call me that he 102 00:04:35,740 --> 00:04:30,820 what was your role with my role well the 103 00:04:41,080 --> 00:04:35,750 secretary flunky whatever there were so 104 00:04:44,680 --> 00:04:41,090 many things to do and he was a very busy 105 00:04:48,820 --> 00:04:44,690 man of course and was in conferences all 106 00:04:50,590 --> 00:04:48,830 day I would have by the time he'd come 107 00:04:55,719 --> 00:04:50,600 from the meeting I'd have his briefcase 108 00:04:57,730 --> 00:04:55,729 packed with reading material and then we 109 00:05:01,060 --> 00:04:57,740 would go through the stack on his desk i 110 00:05:03,520 --> 00:05:01,070 had it prioritized and he always took 111 00:05:05,409 --> 00:05:03,530 his briefcase home with him and the next 112 00:05:09,330 --> 00:05:05,419 morning when he came in he would turn it 113 00:05:14,860 --> 00:05:09,340 upside down dump it on my desk and say I 114 00:05:18,129 --> 00:05:14,870 did my homework he was kind of the 115 00:05:22,290 --> 00:05:18,139 absent-minded professor he would leave 116 00:05:26,439 --> 00:05:22,300 his umbrellas or he usually carried his 117 00:05:28,210 --> 00:05:26,449 pillow with him on every trip because he 118 00:05:33,159 --> 00:05:28,220 had to have it he said he couldn't sleep 119 00:05:37,659 --> 00:05:33,169 without his pillow and he'd leave it at 120 00:05:39,969 --> 00:05:37,669 the hotels I'd have to find somebody who 121 00:05:42,939 --> 00:05:39,979 was on trowel in Washington or wherever 122 00:05:45,070 --> 00:05:42,949 he had been to go get his pillow and 123 00:05:47,200 --> 00:05:45,080 bring it when they come back to Marshall 124 00:05:49,570 --> 00:05:47,210 so he decides to switch you from the 125 00:05:52,450 --> 00:05:49,580 army or move everyone from the army to 126 00:05:54,339 --> 00:05:52,460 NASA and President Eisenhower comes to 127 00:05:56,980 --> 00:05:54,349 Marshall tell me about that you got to 128 00:06:00,909 --> 00:05:56,990 escort him right yes I did they had an 129 00:06:03,730 --> 00:06:00,919 outdoor stage and I got to escort 130 00:06:06,450 --> 00:06:03,740 President Eisenhower to the stage dr. 131 00:06:09,520 --> 00:06:06,460 von Braun escorted mrs. Marshall and 132 00:06:11,170 --> 00:06:09,530 that's when he named us official at the 133 00:06:14,379 --> 00:06:11,180 george c marshall space flight center 134 00:06:16,839 --> 00:06:14,389 which now is just goes by Marshall Space 135 00:06:19,870 --> 00:06:16,849 Flight Center but it was in honor of the 136 00:06:23,920 --> 00:06:19,880 late general george c marshall so what 137 00:06:29,320 --> 00:06:23,930 did he say to you once his rocket made 138 00:06:32,800 --> 00:06:29,330 it to the moon well he went from the 139 00:06:35,830 --> 00:06:32,810 cape to houston to Mission Control of 140 00:06:38,430 --> 00:06:35,840 course to watch the mission and he 141 00:06:40,279 --> 00:06:38,440 stayed through the lunar landing and and 142 00:06:43,309 --> 00:06:40,289 so I didn't see him 143 00:06:45,589 --> 00:06:43,319 talk to him during that period until he 144 00:06:48,739 --> 00:06:45,599 got back to the office and he came in 145 00:06:51,529 --> 00:06:48,749 with a big grin on his face and said 146 00:06:55,100 --> 00:06:51,539 mission accomplished went straight to 147 00:06:57,980 --> 00:06:55,110 his desk then back to work back to work 148 00:06:59,839 --> 00:06:57,990 when I was his desk was full Harvard 149 00:07:01,279 --> 00:06:59,849 Bonnie it was so sweet of you let us 150 00:07:04,429 --> 00:07:01,289 come see you today we are so 151 00:07:17,359 --> 00:07:04,439 appreciative thanks a lot my pleasure my 152 00:07:19,129 --> 00:07:17,369 pleasure morreion was really exciting to 153 00:07:21,230 --> 00:07:19,139 meet so many people instrumental to the 154 00:07:23,420 --> 00:07:21,240 success of this Center very humbling and 155 00:07:25,279 --> 00:07:23,430 inspiring a great group of people and a